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Thin Sides
Dec 20^th, 2004 at 11:18pm

My hair is fine, but it may be thin, too, at least in places.

My overall ponytail circumference is between 2" and 3"
but the sides of my hair in the temple down to infront of my ears is so thin. It has always been this way, so it is not a hair-loss situation.

It is so bad that if my hair has not been freshly shampooed and I put it up I can see scalp on the sides. To combat this, I put it in a low ponytail and then the sides of my hair are better covered.

I have thought about not growing my hair out because of this, I've thought about cutting the hair in front of my ears into short wispies and let the rest grow, sort of faerie-hair. But I really don't want to cut it.

I thought of Rogaine but since it has always been thin on the sides, I'm not sure it would work.

Has anyone else had anything similar? I feel like I'm the only one and that maybe I can't have long hair because of this.

I hope I'm wrong.

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Babyfine Emerald Offline I love YaBB 1G - SP1! Posts: 492 Gender:	Re: Thin Sides Reply #1 - Dec 21^st, 2004 at 12:21am I'm thin in my front hairline area. I don't want to try Rogaine because once you start that you have to keep it up-forever, I understand. I have been using Nioxin s/c once a week and taking vitamins. Haven't seen a huge amount of difference yet. After Christmas I want to get the follicle booster. Too much $$$ for me now.
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Re: Thin Sides
Reply #2 - Dec 21^st, 2004 at 7:28am

NOPE! You're not the only one! Welcome to the club, sister! Grin

I have the same problem - a bit thin on the sides, and now more recently kinda thin on the front hairline as well. I wouldn't touch Rogaine because I don't want to be stuck using that for life.

So I just rely on good old vitamins and an acceptance of hair thinness. (Or at least I try! It's difficult!)

The follicle booster sounds interesting, Babyfine. What is it?

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Reply #3 - Dec 21^st, 2004 at 7:51am

Thanks, Babyfine and Rua!

You both confirmed what I was thinking about the Rogaine; I'm not ready to make that kind of commitment.

I've seen Nioxin advertised but really don't know what it is. Any info on that at the booster, Babyfine!

I'm sorry you two have the same problem but it sure is nice to know I'm not the only one.

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Re: Thin Sides
Reply #4 - Dec 21^st, 2004 at 3:36pm

the salon in the townI live sells Nioxin products. I finally
broke down and bought the s/c, but they're EXPENSIVE
and I saw the follicle booster there, but couldn't afford
to buy that, too. I think its meant for really thinning hair,
like where you can see the scalp through. If you look
at www.nioxin.com, go to products and then do a search
for follicle booster you can pull up what it is and the
ingredients. I don't know if you can get it overseas.
I've been wanting to try it for years, but I didn't want to
spend the money. I think drugstore.com carries the
shampoo and conditioner. It has TEA lauryl sulfate in
it, if you're trying to avoid sulfates, but I think thats
a lot milder than SLS

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Babyfine Emerald Offline I love YaBB 1G - SP1! Posts: 492 Gender:	Re: Thin Sides Reply #5 - Dec 21^st, 2004 at 3:40pm I've wondered if my thinner sides have to do with chemical processing and manipulation with the curling iron and blow dryer that I used to do.
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Rua Emerald Offline "Soft, yes. Weak, no." Posts: 341 Dublin, Ireland Gender:	Sulphates Reply #6 - Dec 21^st, 2004 at 3:48pm Quote: It has TEA lauryl sulfate in it, if you're trying to avoid sulfates, but I think thats a lot milder than SLS Hey, that just reminded me of a question I've been meaning to post for some time. What exactly do those Sulphates in shampoos do? Also, does anyone know which ones you are ok with and which ones you should avoid??
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Reply #7 - Dec 21^st, 2004 at 4:00pm

OK now I have it www.Nioxin.com, go to products and
clik on Special needs and that will pull up the follicle
booster.
Sulfates are a cleansing agent in shampoo, a surfectant
that makes lather. There's SLS or SodiumLaurl Sulfate
and then there's SLES Sodiums Laureth Sulfate which
is milder. There was a big controversy about them
causing cancer but think that's been discredited. You
can get shampoos without sulfates but you have to
ususally get them in a health food store or order them
online.

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Reply #8 - Dec 21^st, 2004 at 10:08pm

I'm going to nioxin.com to check it out!

I don't have too much of an issue with sulfates. I think my hair needs some because everything builds up on it so easily. I do try to stick with the SLES and cocoa? betaine and soaproot? as the cleansing ingredients but will use an all out sulfate if my hair feels real coated with something and nothing else will get it out.

I think it is in the hair recipe section at the top Bikerbraid has compiled a huge list of ingredients and it tells which sulfates are milder. It's an incredible piece of work!

Off topic: They are predicting snow here over the next few days. WooHooo Roll Eyes

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Re: Thin Sides
Reply #9 - Dec 21^st, 2004 at 10:14pm

Babyfine,
I would lean toward not thinking you've done anything in the past to cause enough damage to cause thinning. I'm sure it is possible, but during the 12 years I worked in the salon, I saw some people put their hair and scalps through all sorts of torture, only to have it bounce right back. If I learned anything at all by doing hair it is that it (our hair) is a lot stronger and more resiliant than we give it credit for. Think how strong a fine strand of silk is and I think it's made up of proteins as is our hair. I'm not certain about that though.

HTH,

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Reply #10 - Dec 21^st, 2004 at 10:19pm

Actually i was hoping it was something I've been doing,
because then I could just stop doing it and my hair
would get thicker. Actually my hair has always been very fine, but it thinned out in my mid 20's for some reason, so I started perming it to get volume, did that
for 20 years almost. It looks limp to me now because
I've never had it this long without a perm.(in my adult
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Reply #11 - Dec 22^nd, 2004 at 5:54am

I guess what I was trying to say was that if your treatment of your hair in the past caused any damage that with good care I really believe it can recover.

And fine hair has its own beauty; when well kept it is shiny shiny shiny and silky. It's not limp; its silky!

But I used to get perms, too and getting used to your own texture can take some adjustments in your thinking.

I bet your hair is very pretty; maybe you just haven't realized it yet.

I mean this as a compliment; I'm tired and not sure if I'm expressing myself very well.

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Re: Thin Sides
Reply #12 - Dec 22^nd, 2004 at 7:45pm

Thank you Strawberryfine!! I needed to hear that today.
I am particularily disgusted with my hair today, it just
looks ick! I get sick of wearing it up every day, but I just
feel like I've had so many bad hair days. I really miss
the volume and bounce the perms would give me-several
times in the last week I almost picked up the phone and
made an appointment to get a perm. I've been feeling
like my hair's been making me look old and tired. The
only thing that stops me from doing it is that my hair
is already colour treated, if I permed it I might as well forget about my hair length goals. When we get a digital camera someday I'll post a pic. We're both a
couple of computer klutzs (dh and me. I'm so glad of
the support on this site from everyone, I would have
probably chopped it off a long time ago otherwise.

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Re: Thin Sides
Reply #13 - Dec 22^nd, 2004 at 9:10pm

NOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!
Shocked

You used the "P" word!!!

Now, I know you've got enough willpower to avoid doing that to your hair, Babyfine!!

Still, I can empathize with you. I always loved how easy my hair seemed to be when it was permed. But oh-my-word I regretted it every time when I had to deal with the damage.

Don't worry, your bad hair day will pass, and you will like your hair again! Until then, slap some curlers in or do a few pin curls and call it good! (Thats what I'm planning to do for my bro-in-law's wedding this coming Monday!) Grin

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Re: Thin Sides
Reply #14 - Dec 22^nd, 2004 at 9:43pm

Thanks Rua!! I know perming is a bad thing, and I really
don't want to do it again. I think growing out hair
is sooo frustrating, I just want to wake up and have
long hair that's in good condition. It takes lots of
patience, which I don't have. Plus, every time I've felt
a little stressed or down.I always "done" something to
my hair, such as colored, permed ,cut, CHOPPED!
I've been trying to avoid that and stay the course.

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