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Jun 30th, 2005 at 5:19pm
 
I need some help with a move I'm making this fall. I currently live near Charleston, WV. For some reason, our water has been getting progressively harder over the years. When I was young, my hair was always oily even when permed. Now my hair is so dry I have to use tons of conditioner unless it's a really thick conditioner. I would chalk it up to growing up and being on birth control for the past year to help with my IBS, but when I visited the college I'm going to in the fall, I realized it was the water.
I'm going to college in Wooster, Ohio and the water is so soft it's unreal. In the hotel and the dorm I could not use conditioner without it turning my hair into a weighted down mess. Even with just shampoo, my hair felt too soft. Not the nice, conditioned soft; the eew-my- hair-feels-like-it-has-a-coating-of-something-unpleasant- that-I-can't-seem-to-put-into-words soft.
So, the problem is to figure out how to adjust my routine before I get there, so I don't have to spend bad hair days and money trying to fix the problem there.
By the way, my hair is naturally brown, straight, and thin. I got it in a tight perm last summer which has since loosened considerably. I will probably get a very loose perm before I leave for college, because my hair is so thin that when I let it go for to long I look like I'm balding around my part. I currently use Botanical Nutrients Rosemary Mint Shampoo from Bath and Body Works and Fructis Long and Strong Cream Conditioner on a daily basis. I occasionally use a leave in conditioner and a Botanical Nutrients Wheat Germ Almond Hair Reconstructor. I comb my hair while it's wet with a wide tooth plastic comb, though I'm planning to buy a good wooden comb.
Thanks alot!
Mert

On a side note: One of my friends really wanted to donate her hair to locks of love until I told her what I learned about them from this site. Her hair is not long now but I think she would still like to grow it out and donate it. Are there any other similar charities that actually live up to there promises or is she better to sell her hair and give the money to a charity?
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Reply #1 - Jun 30th, 2005 at 5:39pm
 
College - what a fun time!  Dorm living is an interesting experiement in social gatherings.  I loved it!

OK - Soft Water.  You will find that different products will behave differently when used with software water.  Usually it is a good thing.  You should plan on using LESS shampoo and conditioner.  I found that I could dilute both at almost a 2:1 ratio (2 parts product, 1 part water). 

The heavy feeling your hair showed could have been the soft water breaking down the build up of product on your hair.  Once your hair has been clarified, this should be resolved.  Regular vinegar rinses will also help prevent the buildup - especially with the products that you are using.

Congrats on convincing your friend about Lock of Love.  Cheesy  I'm not aware of any charities that I would trust with my hair (not to say they aren't out there).  Money and time are always appreciated by charities.
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Reply #2 - Jun 30th, 2005 at 6:01pm
 
Is there any clarifying treatment other than vinegar? I tried using a vinegar rinse for about a month an it usually made my hair really frizzy (though I was using a different conditioner and shampoo at the time). Plus, I don't think the other people on my floor would be thrilled about the smell.  It lingered in my bathroom for a day or two.
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Reply #3 - Jun 30th, 2005 at 6:10pm
 
There are clarifying shampoos on the market - you could try some of them out.  I've used Aussie Mega with fairly good success.  Neutrogena also has one that others have said worked for them.

As for the vinegar rinses - you might try a more diluted ratio.  I did vinegar rinses all through college.  A few people might have mentioned it, but it was not an issue.  I always used a conditioner after the vinegar, which would tend to reduce the smell and prevent frizzies.
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Reply #4 - Jun 30th, 2005 at 10:48pm
 
I wouldn't worry about the vinegar smell in the dorm bathroom -- lots of other smells are more obnoxious in there!  It may actually help with those others  Wink

I haven't ever really figured out how hard/soft my water is, but I really dilute my conditioner and shampoo.  So BB's advice is worth a try.  I actually go 1/2 and 1/2 or even more water to shampoo (using Anais' C-COW-C method) and my conditioner is a few squirts in a cup or so of water.  That works well for me.

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Reply #5 - Jun 30th, 2005 at 10:50pm
 
P.S.  Congratulations on going to college -- I loved it!  (wa-a-a-a-ay better than high school Tongue)
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Reply #6 - Jul 1st, 2005 at 2:55am
 
This won't help with your question at all, but have fun at college!  I agree with PreciousLocks; it's much much better than high school (except during finals week).

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Reply #7 - Jul 1st, 2005 at 6:44am
 
Definitely - enjoy college!

Might not be a bad time for a little hair weirdness during the transition either.

I'm wondering, I used to try ACV and had that stripped, frizzed result .... then I added equal parts honey and vinegar to the mix and it really worked well.  Had slip, no smell either.  You can also mix the honey with your regular rinse out conditioner too.  Your Mileage May Vary, but you'll know in one try ... good luck, gabi
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Reply #8 - Aug 3rd, 2005 at 3:26am
 
Thank for all the good luck wishes and advice! Happy I'm sorry it has taken me FOREVER to reply. I've been super busy. I think I will try the honey in the vinegar. I just found out that I'm living in a single in the all freshman dorm that was just reinovated this year. (Fireplaces in the main floor commons!) There are actually 11 or 12 singles on my floor so were forming a little singles group online since we don't have any roommates to contact.
Just to update on my hair. I'm back to using Mane and Tail along with Brillant Brunette Moisterizing Conditioner. It seems to really be working well especially for my color. I have a strange color to my hair that no one seems to be able to give a name. I'm naturally a medium brown but with a perm it becomes the middle ground between dirty blond and light brown. Even stranger, when I'm on stage the stage lights make it appear strawberry blond. I'm wondering if anyone else falls into a similar category.
If anyone has any advice on how to store rise making supplies so that I don't have to mix it in the shower or carry it in with a tow truck to the bathroom, fun treats for my hair I that would be cost effective and easy to do in a dorm, or just college in general let me know!

Last minute note: Has anyone made a list of things that commonly appear in conditioner and shampoos that are bad for hair? I'd love to see a list of bad stuff in general and for specific hair types.
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Reply #9 - Aug 3rd, 2005 at 4:22am
 
Hello Kitten, I find it helpful to stick my conditioners, etc. into a small "shower tote" (you can find these in Target, Walmart, etc). Keep an empty waterbottle in the tote that you can designate for rinses. If you keep a big bottle of vinegar in your closet, and a bottle of honey, you can add it to the waterbottle before you leave for the communal bathroom. That way you can add the water and *shake* when you get there.

HTH Smiley Happy permacamping
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P.S. Thank you for suggesting the list of ingredients and their pros/cons. I think that's the next thing to be added to Medusa...
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Reply #10 - Aug 3rd, 2005 at 5:33am
 
I already planned on a shower tote (a really cute one at linen and things in fact Smiley ). Thanks for the water bottle idea. It sounds like a plan to me!
As far as the list goes, I also think it would be a good idea to list examples of like the top 5, 10, whatever shampoos and conditioners that have ingredients that are good for any hair type in general. A worst list would probably be good to. I'd love to help, though I don't know what most chemicals do. I'd be willing to google any that you don't recognize or check out labels on days I'm not swamped with theatre and college.
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Reply #11 - Aug 3rd, 2005 at 7:24am
 
Man, that sounds like a really nice dorm! The ones I lived in were 40 years old. lol. Be sure to get flipflops ("rubber slippers") for the shower. You don't want to get athlete's foot. Tongue
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Reply #12 - Aug 3rd, 2005 at 10:08am
 
We do have a list of product ingredients and what they do - you can then decide if they are good or bad for your hair type.

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Reply #13 - Aug 3rd, 2005 at 8:35pm
 
Thanks for the link!!  I was able to find some of the ingredients I was worried about in my new shampoo/conditioner on that list.

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Reply #14 - Aug 3rd, 2005 at 10:02pm
 
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We do have a list of product ingredients and what they do - you can then decide if they are good or bad for your hair type.

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