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So Slick It Won't Stay Anywhere but Down
Dec 17^th, 2004 at 10:23pm

Has anyone else had this problem?

My hair is fine and slick and pieces just slide out, even from a scrunchie ponytail (the pieces may just be too short).
It's long enough for a French braid but that slides out, too.

I've had some success with Rapunzel's HairSticks and some with a medium Ficcare clip, but it still slides.

Any suggestions would be so much appreciated.

Maybe my hair is just not meant to stay up. ???

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Re: So Slick It Won't Stay Anywhere but Down
Reply #1 - Dec 18^th, 2004 at 12:21am

Quote:

Has anyone else had this problem?

My hair is fine and slick and pieces just slide out, even from a scrunchie ponytail (the pieces may just be too short).
It's long enough for a French braid but that slides out, too.

I've had some success with Rapunzel's HairSticks and some with a medium Ficcare clip, but it still slides.

Any suggestions would be so much appreciated.

Maybe my hair is just not meant to stay up. ???

TIA,

strawberryfine

My hair is super-slippery too. I've never been able to get it to stay in a scrunchie. I have to use a covered elastic band, which is tighter and controls better.

Loose French braids have never worked for me, either. The hair takes up unevenly, the first part braided becoming shorter than the length, and it pulls out and looks like I've slept in it for a week. The only exception is when I French braid and pin it up. The fact that there's no movement means it stays neat and tidy.

Big (fat) hairsticks work for me, as they tend to tighten up the bun, but I have a pair of Mei Fa sticks that's useless except as a decoration, way too skinny.

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Re: So Slick It Won't Stay Anywhere but Down
Reply #2 - Dec 18^th, 2004 at 11:48am

Ooh, I have experience of this.

If you want your hair to stay in a bun, you might need to secure with it pins- even though you use a hairstick.

A bun net is a huge help. It will prevent hairs from slipping, though it doesn't secure a hairdo. I couldn't imagine making a good-looking, secure bun without one (or an entire can of hairspray). Start your bun from a ponytail secured with a ponytail holder.

A braided hairdo won't stay neat if your hair is clean. I have developed a nice "hairdo routine"- different styles on different days, based on how many day it is from previous wash.
First day: A simple bun attached very securely.
Second day: Depends on occassion, probably a bun, but a braid has a chance of surviving.
Third day (before washing): Braid. Finally I can make it stay.

Forget ponytails attached with a soft scrunchie. If you absolutely want a ponytail, use a ponytail holder. Flat ones without metal are great for this.

Remember, that though slippery hair is maddening, it's also shiny and beautiful- once you've managed to tame it Wink

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strawberryfine Emerald Offline I love YaBB 1G - SP1! Posts: 415 US Gender:	Re: So Slick It Won't Stay Anywhere but Down Reply #3 - Dec 18^th, 2004 at 3:32pm Thanks eKatherine and Galadriel! There was some great info in both of your posts and it helps to know you are not alone in this. What brand ponytail holders are you using? I have some that are flat with no metal that I like but I can't remember where I got them. Thanks again, strawberryfine
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Reply #4 - Dec 18^th, 2004 at 3:42pm

Okay.. so I don't have super straight hair, (oooo straight silky hair has always been a dream of mine!) but I can give you a bit of advice about non-harming pony tail holders!

I use the Goody brand "ouchless" pony tail holders. The ends of the elastic are melted together rather than secured with a metal clamp. And there are great! You can buy a HUGE pack of them at the drugstore for a couple of dollars and they come in every color of the rainbow. And they are prefect for just about every hairstyle.

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Reply #5 - Dec 18^th, 2004 at 4:06pm

Thanks, Red!

I'm going to Walgreens later today and I will write that down.

eKatherine, where would I find the big, fat hairsticks? I'd love to try them.

Since my last post I ponytailed with the flat ponytail holder I have, sprayed it with a mister, hairpinned, then hair netted the bun, pinned somemore and then worked my LongLocks hair sticks in behind the ponytail holder.

I don't think it''s going anywhere and it feels really nice and looks nice, too.

Thanks so much again! I was really feeling the urge to chop to get rid of some damage and layers, but this way I can put it up and let it grow.

Galadriel, that hair net did the trick! Wink

strawberryfine

ETA: This will get me through the Christmas season and takes some worry off my mind. By next Christmas, I'll have presentable length, but this year I'd just be asking for haircut recommendations if I wore it down. It's at a pretty adolescent stage right now.

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Re: So Slick It Won't Stay Anywhere but Down
Reply #6 - Dec 18^th, 2004 at 5:27pm

My ponytail holders are made by local brand -I think. As long as they are flat and have no metal, they seem to work ok.

In hairstyles section I posted a little while ago two bun styles for a shorter hair. One is simple and the other is more dressy. They worked from me since my hair was flip length.

Keep bun net at hand and stay away from scissors- in just a few inches your hair will start behaving better (I hope so, my hair isn't much longer than yours Lips Sealed

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eKatherine Emerald Offline Posts: 426 Maine Gender:	Re: So Slick It Won't Stay Anywhere but Down Reply #7 - Dec 18^th, 2004 at 8:12pm Quote: eKatherine, where would I find the big, fat hairsticks? I'd love to try them. Unfortunately, nobody makes anything like this, so I was referring to other objects that are hairstick-like in shape, but fatter. Like colored pencils, or fat knitting needles.
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styg Diamond Offline ~¤ she shines in a world full of ugliness ¤~ Posts: 711 France Gender:	Re: So Slick It Won't Stay Anywhere but Down Reply #8 - Dec 19^th, 2004 at 7:05pm after i started taking better care: avoiding silicones, oiling COing, my hair has gotten way smoother as well. i recently found that 1/3 jojoba/aloe vera does wonders both as a gloss and a gel.
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strawberryfine Emerald Offline I love YaBB 1G - SP1! Posts: 415 US Gender:	Re: So Slick It Won't Stay Anywhere but Down Reply #9 - Dec 19^th, 2004 at 10:40pm Styg, I tried the jojoba oil/aloe mix and it was quite nice! strawberryfine
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Galadriel Stardust Offline Posts: 1671	Re: So Slick It Won't Stay Anywhere but Down Reply #10 - Dec 20^th, 2004 at 4:22am Have you tried Rapunzel's SpiralStix? They seem to work very well with my hair.
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styg Diamond Offline ~¤ she shines in a world full of ugliness ¤~ Posts: 711 France Gender:	Re: So Slick It Won't Stay Anywhere but Down Reply #11 - Dec 20^th, 2004 at 11:29am i've these little spiral hair pins but they are hard to find (i bought them in brussels). and i will for sure try as well the spiral hair sticks somewhere soon.
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Re: So Slick It Won't Stay Anywhere but Down
Reply #12 - Dec 21^st, 2004 at 12:01am

Thanks to everyone for all the support and suggestions!

Galadriel, I saved you two buns for shorter hair; thanks!
Also, I haven't tried Rapunzel's Spiralstix so I plan on making my next LongLocks HairStix purchase a pair of the spiral ones. I love the one pair I have.

Too bad they don't make fatter hairsticks. I wonder if Rapunzel would be interested....

Everyone here is just so helpful and sweet!

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strawberryfine Emerald Offline I love YaBB 1G - SP1! Posts: 415 US Gender:	Re: So Slick It Won't Stay Anywhere but Down Reply #13 - Dec 21^st, 2004 at 10:30pm Styg, Are those spiral hairpins called Hairscroos? I've seen some on another site but will try to find a website for them. I did a low bun, netted, pinned and hair-sticked (hairstuck?) today and it stayed pretty well thanks to all the great advice in this thread! 8) strawberryfine
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sam00188 Amethyst Offline Blondie Posts: 26 Norwich Ct Gender:	Re: So Slick It Won't Stay Anywhere but Down Reply #14 - Dec 21^st, 2004 at 10:46pm i no wut u meen strawberryfine i hate it when it fly's
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