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intro and hot oil question
Sep 6^th, 2004 at 1:13pm

Good morning everybody!

I just joined, and wanted to tell you I love this community. My hair is just starting to brush my the top of my hips when it is down.

Question for you all:

Have you ever heard of hot oil treatments being bad for your hair? I was out last night with friends, and a gal that is admittedly jealous of my hair (her own hair is barely past her ears, but says its a genetic thing that her hair can't grow), told me that hot oil treatments are bad for your hair because your hair becomes dependent on it and then won't grow. This makes NO sense to me, and I have a feeling that this person just HAS to be an expert in everything even when they don't know anything about the subject matter. I can kinda see if she said that your hair becomes dependent on the hot oil treatments and stops producing its own natural oils. But even then, I've been doing hot oil treatments for almost 5 years and the only negative is clogging up the drain from time to time. Deep conditioning with my olive oil, honey and egg are what I attribute to my hair being in as good condition as it is, considering I wasn't always so nice to it.

Just thought I'd ask all of your opinions on this.

Valerie

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Re: intro and hot oil question
Reply #1 - Sep 6^th, 2004 at 1:23pm

Welcome! Glad to see you have jumped right in with a question.

I've never heard of hot oil treatments being bad for your hair. I do know that you can damage your hair with oil that is too hot (not to mention burning your scalp! OUCH!) Typically a hot oil treatment is applied to the ends of your hair, more than the scalp area. The ends are what usually need the moisture. Many people use the rule of thumb of applying conditioners only to the hair from the ears down. This prevents the scalp and roots from getting too much oil which can cause the greasies.

As for the gal who says she can't grow her hair long because of genetics - unless she has extremely thin hair, I would bet she could grow it long if she would take care of her hair.

Your deep conditioning treatment sound wonderful, tell us more about it!

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Babyfine Emerald Offline I love YaBB 1G - SP1! Posts: 492 Gender:	Re: intro and hot oil question Reply #2 - Sep 6^th, 2004 at 1:58pm After I got my last perm 4 years ago (with BSL hair) I hot oiled it once a week for about 3-4 months with VO5 and Sauve hot oils. If any hair was going to get damaged, it would be my fine, thin fragile hair. My hair benifited greatly from these treatments.(and no more perms for me).
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Re: intro and hot oil question
Reply #3 - Sep 6^th, 2004 at 4:48pm

Thanks for the fast replies!

I started using Queen Helena's jojoba oil treatment, but that got pretty expensive, and the results didn't last long. I switched to olive oil and honey treatments (equal amounts of both) when I was really stupid and bleached my hair twice in 1 day. My hair felt better after the conditioning treatment than before I bleached it. I still use the honey and olive oil, but now mix one egg in it because that helps the oil and honey mix together and is easier to get into my hair. I try to deep condition once a week, but it actually happens once or twice a month. I put plain jojoba oil from the health food store in my hair daily.

Question: Can I reply to individual posts, or just a general reply in the thread?

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Re: intro and hot oil question
Reply #4 - Sep 6^th, 2004 at 5:42pm

Most of the products that are sold as "hot oil" treatments contain little or no oil. I have heard that some people have had bad results from these, but I have not read their complaints directly, nor have I used any of these products.

I definitely recommend using warm oil for your treatments. I like coconut oil, which is never sticky and washes out with my conditioner, but I have also used a blend of oils.

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Re: intro and hot oil question
Reply #5 - Sep 8^th, 2004 at 3:25am

All of the hot oils that I bought at the store never seemed to last long. Part of that though I think was following their instructions to apply it in the shower and rinse out in less than 5 minutes.

I think I'll try coconut oil this winter. From what I've read it is a little heavier and I'm sure I'll need it when my hair starts to get drier.

Thanks for the advice on posting!!!

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Kate Emerald Offline Posts: 328 Linköping, Sweden Gender:	Re: intro and hot oil question Reply #6 - Sep 17^th, 2004 at 8:24pm Coconut oil, where can you find that? Is it a food or a haircare product? Grocery stores here sell coconut fat in solid form (it's next to the margarine), would that be usable? /Kate
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Anais Satin Stardust Offline Tailbone in March 2006, classic in March 2007 Posts: 1265 Bill Gates' backyard, WA Gender:	Re: intro and hot oil question Reply #7 - Sep 17^th, 2004 at 9:05pm I found it in a health food store at the local mall... it says "for skin and hair". Coconut oil that is for cooking should be just as nice, but some people think cooking oils are pressed differently and have a different acidity.
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Kate Emerald Offline Posts: 328 Linköping, Sweden Gender:	Re: intro and hot oil question Reply #8 - Sep 19^th, 2004 at 12:16pm Thanks Anais Satin, I might give it a try when my hair gets longer. /Kate
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eKatherine Emerald Offline Posts: 426 Maine Gender:	Re: intro and hot oil question Reply #9 - Sep 19^th, 2004 at 12:55pm I buy Parachute brand coconut oil in an Asian store. I understand it's very popular in India. It smells very coconutty, if you like that scent, and is much cheaper than in a natural foods store. I buy RDB (refined, deoderized, bleached) coconut oil at the Walmart superstore near me. It is odorless and super cheap.
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Valerie Diamond Offline Posts: 615 Colorado Gender:	Re: intro and hot oil question Reply #10 - Sep 19^th, 2004 at 1:12pm eKatherine What differences if any do you notice between the 2 different oils?
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Reply #11 - Sep 19^th, 2004 at 2:53pm

The smell, taste, and price. It's the same oil, as far as hair is concerned.

Parachute (I recall) is $2.36 a pound at my Korean store. Louana oil bought at Walmart is $2.68 for a 31 oz tub. You can easily pay $16 or more for a pound of virgin coconut oil, which is the kind you usually get at a natural food store.

The less refined, the more it smells and tastes like coconut. Some people don't like that, but I do.

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Valerie Diamond Offline Posts: 615 Colorado Gender:	Re: intro and hot oil question Reply #12 - Sep 21^st, 2004 at 2:02am cool, thanks!
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