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Changing Routines
Feb 16^th, 2004 at 12:06am

I noticed that as my hair grows longer, I find that periodically I need to change my hair care routine. Shampoos and conditioners that had worked fine when my hair was BSL, no longer keep my hair manageable at waistlength. Hair styles need to be modified, some given up, new ones learned. Some hair toys work better now, or worse.

Have any of the rest of you experienced this? What changes have you made to accommodate your growing tresses?

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Re: Changing Routines
Reply #1 - Feb 16^th, 2004 at 5:39am

Can I answer this with a related question? (Which hopefully won't discourage other folks from actually answering the question...)

I've started wearing braids a lot more to save my hair from dehydration and tangles. But now, I need something good to fasten the end of the braid. Any ideas?

I've got those elastic things, but I'm concerned about breakage, as that's the very part of my hair that's most vulnerable. I've also tried ribbons, but they tend to slide out. (I do a lot of running, so I need something that will stay put.)

Thanks for any ideas you might have!

Christine

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Reply #2 - Feb 16^th, 2004 at 1:00pm

Hm,yes,I have experienced that,too!Since my hair is now past classic length,my favourite hairstyle -the braided bun-somehow doesn´t work so well anymore.I can´t wear it with a scrunchie at the moment(just falls down),if I fasten it with hairsticks,my scalp is pulled and I tend to get headaches.Same problem with all other updos,like figure eight bun,etc. Embarrassed

I haven´t found a solution yet,since I don´t want to go any shorter,I´ll just have to keep practising.
Christine-as for fastening braids,I use those tiny scrunchies(don´t know the exact name),the smallest you can get.(About the size of a ring).They don´t pull at the hair and don´t slide out easily.

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Re: Changing Routines
Reply #3 - Feb 16^th, 2004 at 2:24pm

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I've started wearing braids a lot more to save my hair from dehydration and tangles. But now, I need something good to fasten the end of the braid. Any ideas?

I've got those elastic things, but I'm concerned about breakage, as that's the very part of my hair that's most vulnerable. I've also tried ribbons, but they tend to slide out. (I do a lot of running, so I need something that will stay put.)

I have used thin grosgrain ribbon (the ribbon with little ribs on it) to tie off braids. To keep the ribbon from sliding off, I use a long length of ribbon - a bit more than twice the length of my braid. When I start the braiding, I gently tie the ribbon around the center section, then braid with the ribbons being used with the 2 outer sections. When I get to the end of my braiding, I wrap the ribbon around the ends 5 or 6 times before tieing off. When I do the wrapping, I try to not have all the wrappings on top of each other, as I try to distribute the tension to more surface area.

I also use Bunjii ponytailers on the ends of my braids. These unique elastics also wrap around the hair to distribute the compression. You can see them at www.bunjii.com (Brad the Bunjiidude is a very nice person - I highly recommend him and his products).

Hope this gives you some ideas.

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Re: Changing Routines
Reply #4 - Feb 16^th, 2004 at 2:28pm

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Hm,yes,I have experienced that,too!Since my hair is now past classic length,my favourite hairstyle -the braided bun-somehow doesn´t work so well anymore.I can´t wear it with a scrunchie at the moment(just falls down),if I fasten it with hairsticks,my scalp is pulled and I tend to get headaches.Same problem with all other updos,like figure eight bun,etc. Embarrassed

I haven´t found a solution yet,since I don´t want to go any shorter,I´ll just have to keep practising.

Have you tried a double bun? Start by taking only the hair from slightly above you ears (similar to a half up hair do) and twist it into a bun and secure. Now take the remaining hair and twist it like a bun, wrapping it around the first bun and secure it. I found this minimizes the weight on the front/top of my head as it is distributed more evenly. It is also a great way to use 2 hairsticks - one to secure each bun.

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Anne-Marie Emerald Offline Posts: 368 Germany Gender:	Re: Changing Routines Reply #5 - Feb 16^th, 2004 at 4:10pm I have just tried it -and it works like a charm!The bun feels secure now,and it doesn´t pull at all-even looks better than my regular bun.Thanks a lot for that info,bikerbraid!
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bikerbraid Shooting Star Offline Life is short, Break the rules Posts: 6569 Bike Paths of the Midwest Gender:	Re: Changing Routines Reply #6 - Feb 16^th, 2004 at 4:50pm Anne-Marie; Glad it works for you! I've not tried it, but I would guess you could do the same double-bun with braids as well.
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Re: Changing Routines
Reply #7 - Feb 17^th, 2004 at 12:04am

Hi Bikerbraid and Anne-Marie,

Thank you both for the great suggestions. BTW: those Bunjii things are cool! (I can feel my lust for hair toys getting fed even as we speak...)

Actually, that would be a great thread to start: hair toys that didn't work out, but that you just can't bring yourself to throw away. Leopard-print headband, anyone?

Well, at least now I toss the lipsticks that fall into that category...

Christine

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bikerbraid Shooting Star Offline Life is short, Break the rules Posts: 6569 Bike Paths of the Midwest Gender:	Re: Changing Routines Reply #8 - Feb 17^th, 2004 at 3:34am Just for you, Christine, I started a new topic for our flops. Check it out! It is under the Hair Care Product Reviews board.
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Re: Changing Routines
Reply #9 - Mar 5^th, 2004 at 9:50pm

Just read the posting about the double bun... Cheesy

...this sounded so amazing, I had to try it right away on my v.fine, v.long hair...IT LOOKS SOO GOOD and STAYED UP!!
Thank you so much for this suggestion! I will be using it a TON from now on Grin

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To the gal who wrote in about the scrunchie not holding her hair up properly...I find some scrunchies will hold my hair up in a bun no prob (or high ponytail, braid) - others seem to fall out right away..I think it has to do with the strength of the elastic used in the scrunchie...have heard scrunchies are Very easy to make at home if you're naturally inclined that way.

Q TIME! (Sorry,haven't been on in awhile Wink

) ???
Does anyone know where to find NICE headbands..suede-covered that don't hurt??
Also, have noticed that when I braid with my right-hand the braid stays more tight?? Ideas as to why this happens?
Also, my hair is currently 29 inches long...when I braid it (usually french or regular braid..more complex styles don't seem to stay in as well..or maybe I'm not as good at them yet Cheesy

) around the neck/base of the shoulders the braid seems to LOOSEN after a few hrs..regardless of how careful I am to make sure it stays on outside of clothing, jacket, etc.
Any ideas what could be causing this??? ???

Just a general note to the q about hair changing as it grows..I've noticed the longer my hair gets, the less frequently I brush it, the better it is to me..I don't know if this is bc I have some very limited natural wave or bc my hair is so fine, but it reacts best to VERY limited brushing (I only brush it now when am braiding or putting up...headbands, etc...not when ponytailing it)...also I have ALOT of fine hair so don't know if this is part of it, but that's my comment...lol...

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Re: Changing Routines
Reply #10 - Mar 20^th, 2004 at 2:43am

Think about this...
I'm hoping, in the near future, we will have the technology to permanently change the texture (or type) of hair that we were naturally born with. My hair is too thin. I'm sure I'm not alone in this, I will pay big bucks for hair like Nora Jones, Shakira or jennifer Lopez.

Ladies, picture having the hair you have always wanted, growing out of you head naturally.
I don't know how it would work.. maybe a pill, injection or grafting??? I don't know but I'd surely be in line for it.

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kmm Amethyst Offline Posts: 20 Gender:	Re: Changing Routines Reply #11 - Mar 20^th, 2004 at 3:21am Me too!!! Can u imagine?? I'd be able to get the soft, loose wavey rapunzle look i've always fantasized about!!! Think really old Cinderella/fairy-tale hair...sigh
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Re: Changing Routines
Reply #12 - Mar 20^th, 2004 at 6:52am

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Think about this...
I'm hoping, in the near future, we will have the technology to permanently change the texture (or type) of hair that we were naturally born with. My hair is too thin. I'm sure I'm not alone in this, I will pay big bucks for hair like Nora Jones, Shakira or jennifer Lopez.

Ladies, picture having the hair you have always wanted, growing out of you head naturally.
I don't know how it would work.. maybe a pill, injection or grafting??? I don't know but I'd surely be in line for it.

Welcome, Hairtoothin!
Hey - the technology for changing the hair type might not be that far away. I was just reading that they are closer to "curing" baldness.......if they can figure out the genetics to re-growing hair, why not change the hair type!

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Re: Changing Routines
Reply #13 - Jun 13^th, 2004 at 11:43am

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Hm,yes,I have experienced that,too!Since my hair is now past classic length,my favourite hairstyle -the braided bun-somehow doesn´t work so well anymore.I can´t wear it with a scrunchie at the moment(just falls down),if I fasten it with hairsticks,my scalp is pulled and I tend to get headaches.Same problem with all other updos,like figure eight bun,etc. Embarrassed

I haven´t found a solution yet,since I don´t want to go any shorter,I´ll just have to keep practising.

Anne-Marie,
How is it working for you, what Bikerbraid suggested? Back when my hair was really long, I used to occasionally put it up on the back of my head with one chopstick, but the weight and tightness on my scalp was painful. I think the key is to distribute the weight across a larger area of your scalp. Lately I've been pinning it up with half a dozen or so old fashioned hairpins, which I have in sizes from 1½" to 3". As the hair gets longer again, I can see myself pinning up the center of the coil, then the next, and finally tucking in the ends under the last coil.

There's very little tension with hairpins, but they hold very securely. You can always add a hairstick or two as ornaments.

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leia Diamond Offline Posts: 745 Dhaka, Bangladesh Gender:	Re: Changing Routines Reply #14 - Jun 13^th, 2004 at 12:18pm Anne-Marie... Here is another idea for you. I don't remember where I read it but this might work! Start by pulling up the crown section of your hair into a bun, just like for the double bun. Then, instead of making another bun, wrap the remaining hair around the first bun. This might help distribute the weight
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